tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post194141270862615277..comments2013-08-26T20:26:53.330-04:00Comments on Mind games, board games: On Thunderf00t on Sarkeesian on FeminismAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06417592704425743207noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post-7183936324573041122013-08-26T20:26:53.330-04:002013-08-26T20:26:53.330-04:00PS whenn I say ideological thinking I mean that in...PS whenn I say ideological thinking I mean that in a Marx kind a way. Starting with a big idea (an aircastle as he calls it) in which you believe very strongly and which informs your perspective on reality, making you see the empirical reality incorrectly because you did not start from the bottom, with the empirical facts. Untill a point is reached where cognitive dissonance kicks in, in order for the big idea to be protected from reality and the empirical facts. That is when ideological thinking degrades in to hollow frases and empty talk.<br /><br />I put in some Marx parafrases for you as well :) Again nothing, personal, not directed at anybode here. I just like to throw in some Marx and his emoiricism every now and then :DRikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17979447931954156024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post-57963109471855925892013-08-26T20:15:01.939-04:002013-08-26T20:15:01.939-04:00I could start nitpicking through the entire post, ...I could start nitpicking through the entire post, but I would rather discuss some of the more general topics. <br /><br />You seem to believe that: <br /><br />"It's about a systemic and continual trend portraying women being more helpless and less human."<br /><br />That is a large claim and a claim that is going to be difficult to prove when using vague discriptions such as "less human". <br /><br />But you seem to be convinced that it is true. I myself have not seen this trend (and I have watched Anita's videos), but perhaps I am looking at it from a wrong perspective or have not been reading the same research on the subject as you have. So I am curious if there is something you could explain to me or some research you could point me to so I could be convinced that this large claim represents reality to some degree? <br /><br />Then the second point I would like to make revolves around this quote:<br /><br />"In a world without the gender bias we see today, there would be little objection to a damsel in distress, as a proportional amount of the time it would be a man needing to be rescued."<br /><br />When would it be proportional? If it where in fact true that men in reality safe women in distress, relative offcourse to it happening the other way around, as much as it is portrayed in games and the media in general. Would that be proportional? Or should it be 50/50 or 52/48, based on the ratio of men and women in the world? <br />I ask it because I am wandering about your perspective and whether or not you yourself are being a bit objective in your judgements. You seem to be making some pretty strong claims that I don't think you can back up with much evidence. That is oftenly a sign of some ideological thinking. <br /><br />Last but not least. Without wanting to go through any specific points here, but at some points you seem to be making a argument as follows: TF says x about feminism, but according to me feminism is y, therefore TF is wrong. Who are you to define what feminism is? And on the basis of what do you claim that TF's experience of what feminism is invalid or wrong? <br /><br />I am sorry that at time I might come across as a bit attacking. I am not trying to attack anyone personnaly,(since this is the internet and I don't know anybode here I would have nothing to gain from that) but I am sincerly curious to your response to these questions. I have watched both Anita's and TF's videos with great interest and this is the first time I have seen somebody come back at TF from the feminist perspective. So I am simply curious about the way you think about these issues and if you can convince me of what you are claiming.<br /><br />With friendly greetings from AmsterdamRikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17979447931954156024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post-20774298325710796602013-03-23T00:11:54.270-04:002013-03-23T00:11:54.270-04:00Yeah, I agree. I thought I was using many differen...Yeah, I agree. I thought I was using many different terms to mean the same thing, but that one wasn't in line.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06417592704425743207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post-57887190662212761312013-03-19T15:22:34.015-04:002013-03-19T15:22:34.015-04:00Good post overall, I agree with most of the points...Good post overall, I agree with most of the points, save for one nitpick.<br /><br />"A series that is known for being progressive on these issues and establishing a trust long ago strongly (daresay obviously) implies that the scene he played is assuredly not meant to establish male superiority."<br /><br />Just as it is with games, intent is never the issue when it comes to how gender roles are presented in media. I would argue that most video games that contain the damsel in distress trope are "not meant to establish male superiority."<br /><br />It's about context. In the context of Star Trek's history of presenting positive examples of gender roles, one man sacrificing his life for his wife and child is a blip and doesn't really perpetuate any negative stereotypes.Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16880123727421212288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3768071889813223420.post-64461862282522713742013-03-18T21:34:15.665-04:002013-03-18T21:34:15.665-04:00This is the first post I've seen responding to...This is the first post I've seen responding to TF's video and I just wanted to say, well done.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903379165176645863noreply@blogger.com